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  What I Like About This Forum...

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  ...is that it gives me insight into jw circles i'd otherwise never know.. my mother loathes gossip and derives a personal pleasure in shutting jw gossips up.

  as a family, we belong to that boring side of the congregation which never hear any of the juicy stories on the going-ons in the hall.. this forum however makes it possible to have a real panoramic view of the whole thingy.

  from the gb to bethel, to the elders and their families, to the ninja-pioneer army, and many other cliques in the congregations.

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  roberto avon

  what I like about this forum......
  
  I am married since 28 years with a born in Jw ( very liberal, though )
  I always thought that I was strong enough to protect my family from the undue influence of " fanatic " Jw family members and the sisters of the cong that dropped by, so now and then.
  That is untrue and thanks to this forum I even know more than my wife who attends 2/3 meetings a month.
  The information I find here is very important and helps me in understanding what is happening in my wife's religion and be prepared when there is a family discussion.
  
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  Russian Court Denounces Jehovah's Witnesses as 'Extremist'-- The Moscow Times Mar. 04 2015

  by defender of truth in

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  "a court in southern russia has denounced a local organization of jehovah's witnesses as "extremist" and ordered it disbanded, the interfax news agency reported wednesday, in the latest in a long line of such rulings issued to the religious group in russia.. the group's building and surrounding land will be confiscated by the local government in the town of abinsk, krasnodar region, the court ruled.the group had been distributing publications titled "humanity in search of god" and "what does the bible really teach?

  " that were included in the federal list of extremist materials and are banned for distribution in the country, the news report said.

  http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/news/article/russian-court-denounces-jehovah-s-witnesses-as-extremist/517026.html.

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  roberto avon

  
  
  wether you are a repressive goverment that uses propaganda ( Russia ?? ) or a " western democracy looking for weapons of mass destruction ( USA + GB ?? ) and invading foreign countries ( thank you very much, now we have Isis ) , somebody has to stop cults like Scientology or Watchtower.
  It has nothing to do with freedom of religion
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  I just stumbled across this rabbit hole!

  by kairos in

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  just wow!.

  some of the comments i read were hard to stomach.. https://www.facebook.com/myministryideaz?fref=photo.

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  roberto avon

  there's also an article about Pope Francis praising JWs, 100% fake ( I told them but I don't think I'll get a reply )
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  Introducing myself

  by maksutov in

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  my name is russ, i'm 40 years old, from the uk, and i left the jws nearly 5 years ago.

  i've been a member of the yuku board throughout that time, so there are probably some on here who know me already.

  there seems to be more activity over here at the moment, so i thought i'd pop in and say hi.i was raised as a jw, started questioning it when i was 16, but there was no internet back then (well, no www anyway) so i got sucked right in and got baptized when i was 18. auxiliary pioneered on and off for a couple of years, then became a ministerial servant.

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  Welcome Russ, I never was a Jw but I am married to one, although she is quite liberal. My kids ( 26,21 and 13 ) aren't. The family of my wife ( parents and siblings ) are all Jws.

  We share a lot of interests as science, weight lifting, writing and classical guitar. My question is;" did you always have these interests or only after you left the Jws?"
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  An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico

  by OrphanCrow in

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  dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.

  in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?

  ": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..

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  roberto avon

  OrphanCrow, I am reading  the doctoral dissertation of Dr. Jena Barchas and you're absolutely right that she isn't a Jw.
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  An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
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  dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.

  in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?

  ": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..

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  Very interesting read even if I did not understand it 100% ( English is my 4th language ) and my first reaction is ; " How the hell can she be so smart and skilled and still be a Jw?" I think, though, it is unfair to say so because I was Catholic ( remember Galileo ??)  and still am superstitious ( black cats, ladders aso ). 

  If I could ever meet this lady I would ask her what is behind this mysterial language of the Jehovah's. When my wife told me she was a Jw and invited ( very bad ) me for a dinner with her family for the first time in my life i heard words as ; wordling, elder, overseer, meeting, assembly, pioneer, field service, and bla, bla, bla....

  
  
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  New Apostate: Tempest in a Teacup

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  first post on here.

  i've been lurking for 3-4 years and i mean i've been a mega lurker, doing marathon reading sessions for months or weeks.. sometimes i proceed by researching specific topics, or posters; other times just reading current discussions.

  i'm particularly fond of "old" post, i.e 10-12-15 years ago.. i have laughed, smiled, got mad, cried etc, just reading some threads here.. as you can see i suffer from some kind of "accute lurkitis".

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  roberto avon

  yes, good for you Tempest. I believe that there a lot of Jws like you.

  
  
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  New Apostate: Tempest in a Teacup

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  first post on here.

  i've been lurking for 3-4 years and i mean i've been a mega lurker, doing marathon reading sessions for months or weeks.. sometimes i proceed by researching specific topics, or posters; other times just reading current discussions.

  i'm particularly fond of "old" post, i.e 10-12-15 years ago.. i have laughed, smiled, got mad, cried etc, just reading some threads here.. as you can see i suffer from some kind of "accute lurkitis".

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  roberto avon

  FayeDunaway, I would immediately exclude Southern Europe, even if " we " have the pope we are fare ahead on for example North America concerning gay rights, euthanasia, abortion and death penalty.
  Most probably it is South America, if we check the yearbook 2015 we see that the biggest part of the increase of new Jws is in Latin Amrica and Usa ( mainly latino immigrants I guess ).
  It is up to the USA, like the cigarettes ( Philipp Morris ??) you started as first smoking, producing and selling them but also the first to realize it was bad and stopped smoking.
  Let us hope that somebody will stop this born in the Usa stuff, maybe  with the help of Irwin Zalkin and the american judges....
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  New Apostate: Tempest in a Teacup

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first post on here.

  i've been lurking for 3-4 years and i mean i've been a mega lurker, doing marathon reading sessions for months or weeks.. sometimes i proceed by researching specific topics, or posters; other times just reading current discussions.

  i'm particularly fond of "old" post, i.e 10-12-15 years ago.. i have laughed, smiled, got mad, cried etc, just reading some threads here.. as you can see i suffer from some kind of "accute lurkitis".

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  roberto avon

  It was very nice reading you and I am convinced that there are a lot of Jws like you, for example my wife. How else could an ex non practisant catholic live with her?

  
  
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  roberto avon

  The only interesting thing was that ho could speak for a while to GB member and this will have some consequences for " some brothers " at Bethel. I don't see a winner or a looser.

  My personal opinion is that John Cedars is loosing credibility and his latest posts/ actions are full of anger, resentment and desire for vengeance

  How to blame him, he was convinced/ obliged by his mother to attend MTS ( a nonsense school ) and we know what happened, he lives in a strange country and is being shunned by his whole family.

  My sincere advice ; step out of this ex jw activity for a while and build a new live, go back to UK and try to get some real skills because you will get nowhere if you continue fighting like this against the Wts.